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Millipede ID Request (07/21/2016)


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#1 Offline aqandres4 - Posted July 21 2016 - 6:29 PM

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1. Location of collection: Hialeah, Florida, U.S.A.
2. (07/21/2016)
 
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1. Location of collection: Hialeah, Florida, U.S.A., on the kitchen floor.

2. Date of collection: 07/21/2016
3. Habitat of collection: It was collected on the kitchen floor inside my house.
4. I don't have an exact measurement, but it's about 50 millimeters long and like 2-3 millimeters wide. This is a guess.
5. Coloration, hue, pattern and texture: It's over-all dark red with even darker red stripes all over it.
6. Distinguishing characteristics: It's long and it's dark red color with darker red stripes.
7. Anything else distinctive: No, nothing else.


9 . Here's a picture of the top of the millipede (please click on the link): 

 

Please answer the question below, if you can. You don't have to.

 

Can ants eat this millipede?

 

https://gyazo.com/06...61a67938f280fc5

 

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#2 Offline Salmon - Posted July 21 2016 - 6:46 PM

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Possibly a small Narceus sp. individual, though it's swollen thorax suggests sexual maturity even though Narceus are usually bigger than that. I'm not sure if two- inch Narceus americanus have developed reproductive organs like that, but if they do that's my guess.

Nearly all millipedes secrete toxins of some kind, but considering that millipedes are abundant throughout North America I'm sure at least some species have developed resistance. And it appears to be in the same subfamily (spirostreptidae I think) as that millipede in that video where the ants form a daisy chain to carry it.

EDIT: It's too thin and not stripy enough to be N. americanus. I think it's Trigoniulus corallinus.

Edited by Salmon, July 21 2016 - 6:49 PM.


#3 Offline aqandres4 - Posted July 21 2016 - 6:59 PM

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Possibly a small Narceus sp. individual, though it's swollen thorax suggests sexual maturity even though Narceus are usually bigger than that. I'm not sure if two- inch Narceus americanus have developed reproductive organs like that, but if they do that's my guess.

Nearly all millipedes secrete toxins of some kind, but considering that millipedes are abundant throughout North America I'm sure at least some species have developed resistance. And it appears to be in the same subfamily (spirostreptidae I think) as that millipede in that video where the ants form a daisy chain to carry it.

EDIT: It's too thin and not stripy enough to be N. americanus. I think it's Trigoniulus corallinus.

 

Thanks! By the way, I'm pretty sure it's a little bit more larger than two inches, now that I've come to think about it more.



#4 Offline mbullock42086 - Posted November 5 2017 - 7:39 AM

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Trigoniulus corallinus- Scarlet red millipede



#5 Offline Hunter - Posted November 5 2017 - 7:42 AM

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i would not feed them as most have a gland that runs down there body



#6 Offline FeedTheAnts - Posted November 25 2017 - 5:55 PM

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I highly doubt that ants would eat Millipedes.


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#7 Offline Salmon - Posted November 25 2017 - 6:03 PM

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I highly doubt that ants would eat Millipedes.

 

Likely true for most ants...definitely not all.

 


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#8 Offline AnthonyP163 - Posted November 26 2017 - 6:56 AM

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Hi, everyone. I looked up Trigoniulus corallinus, and it's a species found in Asia. It's invasive in Hawaii and some of the Caribbean, but I doubt it would be in Florida if it's a species from Asia. 

 

I'm pretty sure it's a much more common species, Chicobolus spinigerus. Which is the Florida Ivory Millipede. 


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#9 Offline Connectimyrmex - Posted November 26 2017 - 7:16 AM

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Wait. That does look a lot like Trigoniulus! I would see those all over the tennis courts back in Hawaii.

You are probably right, though (with Chicobolus).


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#10 Offline Salmon - Posted November 26 2017 - 1:06 PM

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Hi, everyone. I looked up Trigoniulus corallinus, and it's a species found in Asia. It's invasive in Hawaii and some of the Caribbean, but I doubt it would be in Florida if it's a species from Asia. 

 

I'm pretty sure it's a much more common species, Chicobolus spinigerus. Which is the Florida Ivory Millipede. 

 

No, T. corallinus has been introduced to and is quite common in Florida. Besides that, there's more large millipede species in Florida than just these two and it looks nothing like Chicobolus.






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